Travis Kalanick says ‘Masa money’ was ‘easy’ and ‘too loose’ during SoftBank’s hyper-funding era

Kalanick, who raised billions for Uber himself amid SoftBank’s aggressive 2017 investment spree, contrasted this with his own stealth approach at Atoms (formerly CloudKitchens), where internal drive replaced public hype. “You’re not caring what others think. You get internally fulfilled with building,” he said.